Frames

[Marpel]

Couple questions.

Is the Frame transform in version 8 the same as or a fuller version of the (now discontinued?) Frame Explorer (didn't wish to download it to find out).

And, I notice a few of the included frames present a conversion dialogue (it appears they are sRGB) when chosen, while others do not. Does this mean some just happen to match the color space of the image I was processing or are all of them supposed to automatically go through a conversion "under the hood" to match the image, or...?

Marv

[jsachs]

Yes, it is basically the same as Frame Explorer.

You get a warning if any of the images is not in the current working color space, assuming you have the color management settings to ask on a profile mismatch.

[Marpel]

Thanks Jonathan,

I should say first that the Frame component is worth the price of admission. I find I am using it every time I intend to matt/frame up an image.

Another question, though -

If I frame a square image, the proportions of the finished version is square as well (as expected). However, if I frame an image that is not square, the finished proportions are not related to the initial image. Depending on the shape of the image, the difference seems to be anywhere from a couple hundred pixels to 1500 pixels.

As an example, using frame and matt dimensions which are equal on all four sides, and a 7360 X 4912 image, the final framed image is 4350 X 3352. The difference in the long dimensions is 3010 while the short side is 1560. Another image proportion gave me a difference of only a couple hundred pixels. Unless I am doing something wrong or my math is way off.

It does not look like the program is cropping the image, so I presume it is distorting the image in one dimension?

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[jsachs]

You have several options for determining the size via the Base Size On control at the top of the Image tab.

If you use the default Fixed Image Width, the image is, by default, not cropped and the mat and frame widths are added onto the image dimensions to get the frame size. Adding the same constant to the width and height naturally changes the proportions.

If you want to match a standard frame size, you can base the size for example on the frame opening, in which case the image size is computed by working inward from the frame and the image will generally be cropped.

The final image size in pixels depends on the frame size and dpi setting -- the image is nearly always resampled to fit the required physical dimensions and resolution.

In no case is the image distorted.

[Marpel]

Thanks for the informative response.

Helped me wrap my mind around things and I think I understand now.

And another question. I presume, much like my question a while back about picking colours from one image to use for a new image, to choose colours for the inner and outer matts and bevels, there is no direct way to pick a colour from the image that is being framed?

Back in the old days when I used to frame a lot of prints, there was the suggested method to borrow a colour from the image itself for the matt(s).

Wishing to continue that method with the virtual framing/matting, I am having to open and use the palette to first identify certain colours from the image, then later grab those colours in the colour picker. Not a biggie but just an extra step.

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[jsachs]

You can pick directly from the input image, but you will first need to get the frame preview out of the way by placing it on a second monitor or reducing its size, and then switch to side-by-side display so you can get at the input image. This is also how you crop the input image, if necessary.

[Marpel]

Excellent, thanks very much.