How much is too much???
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2014 ... ics-breach
Clearly, shadow detail recovery and de-saturation has also been done...
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OT -- Photography, Photojounalism, and Ethics
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Re: OT -- Photography, Photojounalism, and Ethics
A very interesting link, den.
I will take the risk and post my private, humble and unavoidably simplified opinion, hoping it will not start any hot disputing :). Also, I appologize to Jonathan and Kiril as this contribution has got nothing to do with the PW support or Tips.
As far as the photojournalism is concerned the contribution #32 appeals to me the most. I would even go a little bit further. If I take a shot of something happening from a distance or a difficult angle, because I cannot get any closer, or better position, then it will be from the distance or the difficult angle with all the "clutter" and it is up to the others to find out what the shot is about. If they do not, then the shot is not meant for them and they may not see it even in the reality. What someone calls clutter may be necessary context for someone else. I never trust those images with perfect composition, as they much too often seem trying to boadcast one particular feeling for all to share. This can be harder with images framed as they were.
I had better repeat, it is my view or maybe my expectation just of the photojournalism. I am not a photojournalist.
David
I will take the risk and post my private, humble and unavoidably simplified opinion, hoping it will not start any hot disputing :). Also, I appologize to Jonathan and Kiril as this contribution has got nothing to do with the PW support or Tips.
As far as the photojournalism is concerned the contribution #32 appeals to me the most. I would even go a little bit further. If I take a shot of something happening from a distance or a difficult angle, because I cannot get any closer, or better position, then it will be from the distance or the difficult angle with all the "clutter" and it is up to the others to find out what the shot is about. If they do not, then the shot is not meant for them and they may not see it even in the reality. What someone calls clutter may be necessary context for someone else. I never trust those images with perfect composition, as they much too often seem trying to boadcast one particular feeling for all to share. This can be harder with images framed as they were.
I had better repeat, it is my view or maybe my expectation just of the photojournalism. I am not a photojournalist.
David
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den
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Re: OT -- Photography, Photojounalism, and Ethics
If only AP editors were as critical of their writting journalists as they are apparantly critical of their photojournalists...
http://news.msn.com/world/fidel-castro- ... altered-ap
Perhaps a skin smoothing blur/color change that obscures a possible hearing aid device is not acceptable... ...but there is no mention of the very distinctive color change of the flowers in the background... ...I wonder which change has the most intelligence import!!!!
...den...
http://news.msn.com/world/fidel-castro- ... altered-ap
Perhaps a skin smoothing blur/color change that obscures a possible hearing aid device is not acceptable... ...but there is no mention of the very distinctive color change of the flowers in the background... ...I wonder which change has the most intelligence import!!!!
...den...
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Re: OT -- Photography, Photojounalism, and Ethics
Our local newspaper (a Pulitzer Prizewinning publication) fired a photographer for altering a number of photographs. The photo that precipitated the investigation which uncovered a string of alterations is the first one shown in the attached -- the removal of disembodied legs. (I've never before tried to insert a link in a posting on this forum, so I hope it works.)
http://www.toledoblade.com/assets/pdf/TO16827415.PDF
I met the offending photographer, Allan Detrich, subsequent to his firing. We didn't discuss the history, but I determined that he is a very talented photographer.
One of my good friends is a journalist who writes at the same newspaper and who has covered stories side-by-side with this photographer. While we were discussing him, I asked whether she had ever collected information while researching a story that never made it into the article she wrote. "Of course", she said. I asked her why she didn't write about everything she learned. "We don't have space for articles that long", she replied. So I asked if she had ever excluded information from an article she wrote because it wasn't an important or critical element of the story. "Oh, that happens with every story", she said.
I just stared at her for awhile. Then I observed, "I guess standards are higher for photographers than for writers, huh?" To say that she was speechless would be an understatement. It was apparent that this line of logic had never crossed her mind -- or, presumably, the minds of her journalistic bretheren.
She and I are still good friends. But we never discuss journalistic ethics any more.
http://www.toledoblade.com/assets/pdf/TO16827415.PDF
I met the offending photographer, Allan Detrich, subsequent to his firing. We didn't discuss the history, but I determined that he is a very talented photographer.
One of my good friends is a journalist who writes at the same newspaper and who has covered stories side-by-side with this photographer. While we were discussing him, I asked whether she had ever collected information while researching a story that never made it into the article she wrote. "Of course", she said. I asked her why she didn't write about everything she learned. "We don't have space for articles that long", she replied. So I asked if she had ever excluded information from an article she wrote because it wasn't an important or critical element of the story. "Oh, that happens with every story", she said.
I just stared at her for awhile. Then I observed, "I guess standards are higher for photographers than for writers, huh?" To say that she was speechless would be an understatement. It was apparent that this line of logic had never crossed her mind -- or, presumably, the minds of her journalistic bretheren.
She and I are still good friends. But we never discuss journalistic ethics any more.
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Re: OT -- Photography, Photojounalism, and Ethics
No words of wisdom on photojournalism and ethics, however I will say the renovation to the Contreras image is just about the worst, and most obvious, clone technique I've seen. No wonder he decided to confess.
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